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Summary: Haren Webb share ability to get hitters out By Jerry CrasnickESPN com Archive TUCSON Ariz As history shows 1 2 pitching duos have different ways to bond In 1966 Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale found a common purpose in their quest to squeeze a few extra bucks out of Dodgers owner Walter O Malley For years in Atlanta Tom Glavine Greg Maddux and John Smoltz strengthened their ties over tee shots and a cold beer at the clubhouse tavern ASSOCIATED PRESSDan Haren left and Brandon Webb could form the National League s best 1 2 combination So what shared interests will bring new Arizona teammates Brandon Webb and Dan Haren together this season At first glance it s tough to find a common thread Webb 28 is a laid back Kentucky Wildcat who strums a guitar in the clubhouse and has a big black bag filled with woods and irons next to his spring training locker Haren 27 is a low key Pepperdine Wave with a fondness for sitcoms His personal favorites are Seinfeld King of Queens and The Office and he routinely pops DVDs into his laptop on charter flights to help him forget that he s a nervous flier Haren also enjoys a relaxing round of golf but with a 2 month old baby boy at home he s so sleep deprived these days that he might wander into the woods after a lost ball and never return Webb s repertoire includes a curveball and a changeup but they re just a diversion from a sinker that s so good it merits its own trademark The pitch never functioned more efficiently than last summer when Webb tossed 42 consecutive scoreless innings in July and August Haren in contrast will cut it sink it curve it or split it His arsenal is so diverse it includes everything but a universal healthcare package Ever since I met Danny he s done nothing but progress said Giants starter Noah Lowry Haren s former Pepperdine teammate It s not just his physical ability He s got it together mentally as well He s a complete package pitcher In the end the common link between Webb and Haren is the most elementary one　 of all They re no frills guys who just happen to be very good at getting hitters out Among top of the rotation combinations Johan Santana and Pedro Martinez of the Mets win out on cachet C C Sabathia and Fausto Carmona combined for 38 wins with Cleveland in 2007 The Felix Hernandez Erik Bedard tandem is potentially lethal in Seattle and Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum might leave everyone in the dust by 2010 Webb and Haren Last Three SeasonsWebbHarenW L48 3043 34ERA3 213 64Opp BA 249 253Starts100102But for durability dependability and All Star caliber performance at a reasonable price the Diamondbacks might have hit paydirt Over the past three seasons Webb ranks first among big league pitchers in innings with 700 1 3 and Haren is eighth with 662 2 3 Webb Haren and Arizona lefty Doug Davis are among a group of 14 pitchers with 100 or more starts since 2005 Webb ranks fourth among starters in that span with 48 victories and Haren is tied with Jake Peavy Aaron Harang and Tim Hudson for 15th place with 43 wins The next time a beat reporter refers to either pitcher as a diva he ll be asked to submit to a urine test You re not going to find two more low maintenance stars Arizona general manager Josh Byrnes said They re humble guys and I think they like being around their teammates They really add to the team dynamic Baseball fans in Phoenix are so excited by the Webb Haren combination people are already tossing out comparisons to the Randy Johnson Curt Schilling tandem that went 43 12 and overcame the Yankees mystique and aura to pitch the Diamondbacks to a world championship in 2001 It s sacrilegious but true I don t think they re there yet but we feel pretty good about both these guys because of their success at a young age Arizona manager Bob Melvin said Best of all they ll have a chance to grow on the job Webb is locked up for $21 million through 2010 and Haren arrived with three years and $16 5 million left on his contract when the Diamondbacks acquired him from Oakland in an eight player trade in December Dan HarenAP Photo M Spencer GreenDan Haren started for the American League in the All Star Game last season That s 68 starts and 460 innings annually for the next three years at a combined cost of $37 5 million or just a hair more than Kansas City will pay Jose Guillen to play right field during that stretch Are pocket aces enough for the Diamondbacks to build on their success of 2007 and win a second straight division title That depends on how quickly some of Arizona s young hitters progress The Diamondbacks were outscored by 20 runs last season but won 90 games thanks in part to a 32 20 record in one　 run games Management did nothing of note to upgrade the lineup unless you count that spring training Trot Nixon acquisition But Arizona s offense posted an 811 OPS in September making it easily the team s best offensive month and the Diamondbacks are betting that shortstop Stephen Drew center fielder Chris Young and right fielder Justin Upton can pick up the pace with another year of experience behind them Melvin is also hoping for 20 25 starts from Johnson in his recovery from back surgery at age 44 If the Diamondbacks can coax 120 to 150 innings out of Johnson they have enough surplus pitching to fill in the blanks In the Cactus League Johnson is focused strictly on throwing while his fellow pitchers take part in the drudgery of covering first handling bunts and knocking down comebackers that magical time of year known as pitchers fielding practice or PFP No wonder the Big Unit is in a good mood I was never going to win a Gold Glove anyway Johnson said The party line is that Johnson is chapped that his back problems have left him 16 wins short of 300 for his career and that he s determined to show everyone he doesn t belong in a massage chair just yet But as catcher Chris Snyder points out I ve never seen the guy when he s not determined I don t know what he does when he wakes up in the morning but you know the guy has something on his mind and he s going to get it done Johnson will have to slot in behind Webb and Haren whose transition from Oakland to Phoenix is a mixed blessing True Haren will be pitching against less daunting lineups in the National League but he s also in a more hitter friendly home park now and he s had some problems with the long ball in his career If good pitching is contagious Haren has come to the right place He remembers sitting in the dugout with Oakland teammates Chad Gaudin and Joe Blanton during Webb s shutout streak in August 2007 and seeing Arizona leading Atlanta 4 0 His immediate reaction was I bet Webb is pitching If you want to call it feeding off each other pushing each other or whatever there always becomes a sort of friendly competition If you re a competitor and a guy on your team is doing well you want to up the ante a little bit Arizona manager Bob Melvin about Brandon Webb and Dan Haren We all talked about how amazing it was Haren said I ve never thrown a complete game shutout in my whole career and he had three in a row This is amazingly correct In 121 career starts Haren has five complete games and no shutouts Complete games or not Webb and Haren should take a lot of pressure off the bullpen Last year Webb threw 236 1 3 innings in the regular season and 13 more in the playoffs Most nights he took the mound knowing he had to throw seven or eight innings because the relievers were taxed I felt like I threw a million innings Webb said Webb has a new playmate now and they ll help test the theory that good pitching like hitting is contagious If you want to call it feeding off each other pushing each other or whatever there always becomes a sort of friendly competition Melvin said If you re a competitor and a guy on your team is doing well you want to up the ante a little bit The Diamondbacks have made it clear they like their chances Now it s time to stop the talking and just go pitch Jerry Crasnick covers baseball for ESPN com His book License To Deal was published by Rodale Click here to order a copy Jerry can be reached via e mail infielder Donnie Kelly pitcher Billy Buckner Haren Webb share ability to get hitters out By Jerry CrasnickESPN com Archive TUCSON Ariz As history shows 1 2 pitching duos have different ways to bond In 1966 Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale found a common purpose in their quest to squeeze a few extra bucks out of Dodgers owner Walter O Malley For years in Atlanta Tom Glavine Greg Maddux and John Smoltz strengthened their ties over tee shots and a cold beer at the clubhouse tavern ASSOCIATED PRESSDan Haren left and Brandon Webb could form the National League s best 1 2 combination So what shared interests will bring new Arizona teammates Brandon Webb and Dan Haren together this season At first glance it s tough to find a common thread Webb 28 is a laid back Kentucky Wildcat who strums a guitar in the clubhouse and has a big black bag filled with woods and irons next to his spring training locker Haren 27 is a low key Pepperdine Wave with a fondness for sitcoms His personal favorites are Seinfeld King of Queens and The Office and he routinely pops DVDs into his laptop on charter flights to help him forget that he s a nervous flier Haren also enjoys a relaxing round of golf but with a 2 month old baby boy at home he s so sleep deprived these days that he might wander into the woods after a lost ball and never return Webb s repertoire includes a curveball and a changeup but they re just a diversion from a sinker that s so good it merits its own trademark The pitch never functioned more efficiently than last summer when Webb tossed 42 consecutive scoreless innings in July and August Haren in contrast will cut it sink it curve it or split it His arsenal is so diverse it includes everything but a universal healthcare package Ever since I met Danny he s done nothing but progress said Giants starter Noah Lowry Haren s former Pepperdine teammate It s not just his physical ability He s got it together mentally as well He s a complete package pitcher In the end the common link between Webb and Haren is the most elementary one　 of all They re no frills guys who just happen to be very good at getting hitters out Among top of the rotation combinations Johan Santana and Pedro Martinez of the Mets win out on cachet C C Sabathia and Fausto Carmona combined for 38 wins with Cleveland in 2007 The Felix Hernandez Erik Bedard tandem is potentially lethal in Seattle and Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum might leave everyone in the dust by 2010 Webb and Haren Last Three SeasonsWebbHarenW L48 3043 34ERA3 213 64Opp BA 249 253Starts100102But for durability dependability and All Star caliber performance at a reasonable price the Diamondbacks might have hit paydirt Over the past three seasons Webb ranks first among big league pitchers in innings with 700 1 3 and Haren is eighth with 662 2 3 Webb Haren and Arizona lefty Doug Davis are among a group of 14 pitchers with 100 or more starts since 2005 Webb ranks fourth among starters in that span with 48 victories and Haren is tied with Jake Peavy Aaron Harang and Tim Hudson for 15th place with 43 wins The next time a beat reporter refers to either pitcher as a diva he ll be asked to submit to a urine test You re not going to find two more low maintenance stars Arizona general manager Josh Byrnes said They re humble guys and I think they like being around their teammates They really add to the team dynamic Baseball fans in Phoenix are so excited by the Webb Haren combination people are already tossing out comparisons to the Randy Johnson Curt Schilling tandem that went 43 12 and overcame the Yankees mystique and aura to pitch the Diamondbacks to a world championship in 2001 It s sacrilegious but true I don t think they re there yet but we feel pretty good about both these guys because of their success at a young age Arizona manager Bob Melvin said Best of all they ll have a chance to grow on the job Webb is locked up for $21 million through 2010 and Haren arrived with three years and $16 5 million left on his contract when the Diamondbacks acquired him from Oakland in an eight player trade in December Dan HarenAP Photo M Spencer GreenDan Haren started for the American League in the All Star Game last season That s 68 starts and 460 innings annually for the next three years at a combined cost of $37 5 million or just a hair more than Kansas City will pay Jose Guillen to play right field during that stretch Are pocket aces enough for the Diamondbacks to build on their success of 2007 and win a second straight division title That depends on how quickly some of Arizona s young hitters progress The Diamondbacks were outscored by 20 runs last season but won 90 games thanks in part to a 32 20 record in one　 run games Management did nothing of note to upgrade the lineup unless you count that spring training Trot Nixon acquisition But Arizona s offense posted an 811 OPS in September making it easily the team s best offensive month and the Diamondbacks are betting that shortstop Stephen Drew center fielder Chris Young and right fielder Justin Upton can pick up the pace with another year of experience behind them Melvin is also hoping for 20 25 starts from Johnson in his recovery from back surgery at age 44 If the Diamondbacks can coax 120 to 150 innings out of Johnson they have enough surplus pitching to fill in the blanks In the Cactus League Johnson is focused strictly on throwing while his fellow pitchers take part in the drudgery of covering first handling bunts and knocking down comebackers that magical time of year known as pitchers fielding practice or PFP No wonder the Big Unit is in a good mood I was never going to win a Gold Glove anyway Johnson said The party line is that Johnson is chapped that his back problems have left him 16 wins short of 300 for his career and that he s determined to show everyone he doesn t belong in a massage chair just yet But as catcher Chris Snyder points out I ve never seen the guy when he s not determined I don t know what he does when he wakes up in the morning but you know the guy has something on his mind and he s going to get it done Johnson will have to slot in behind Webb and Haren whose transition from Oakland to Phoenix is a mixed blessing True Haren will be pitching against less daunting lineups in the National League but he s also in a more hitter friendly home park now and he s had some problems with the long ball in his career If good pitching is contagious Haren has come to the right place He remembers sitting in the dugout with Oakland teammates Chad Gaudin and Joe Blanton during Webb s shutout streak in August 2007 and seeing Arizona leading Atlanta 4 0 His immediate reaction was I bet Webb is pitching If you want to call it feeding off each other pushing each other or whatever there always becomes a sort of friendly competition If you re a competitor and a guy on your team is doing well you want to up the ante a little bit Arizona manager Bob Melvin about Brandon Webb and Dan Haren We all talked about how amazing it was Haren said I ve never thrown a complete game shutout in my whole career and he had three in a row This is amazingly correct In 121 career starts Haren has five complete games and no shutouts Complete games or not Webb and Haren should take a lot of pressure off the bullpen Last year Webb threw 236 1 3 innings in the regular season and 13 more in the playoffs Most nights he took the mound knowing he had to throw seven or eight innings because the relievers were taxed I felt like I threw a million innings Webb said Webb has a new playmate now and they ll help test the theory that good pitching like hitting is contagious If you want to call it feeding off each other pushing each other or whatever there always becomes a sort of friendly competition Melvin said If you re a competitor and a guy on your team is doing well you want to up the ante a little bit The Diamondbacks have made it clear they like their chances Now it s time to stop the talking and just go pitch Jerry Crasnick covers baseball for ESPN com His book License To Deal was published by Rodale Click here to order a copy Jerry can be reached via e mail infielder Donnie Kelly pitcher Billy Buckner

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